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Outlaw History of Pro Skater Jason Dill – Epicly Later’d – VICE

Outlaw History of Pro Skater Jason Dill – Epicly Later’d – VICE


MALE SPEAKER: What’s all this
fucking shit on the wall? JASON DILL: I woke up– for like
a month straight– just with blood in my mouth. MALE SPEAKER: How’d it
get on the wall? Spitting? JASON DILL: Yeah. 14 dental appointments and
they’re still fucked up. I know it’s gross. People probably think
it’s fucked up. I mean every day you come in
here you’ve got like– literally, I’m not going
to look at it. I’m just going to be like,
[SPITTING], spit it out. I just had to see it,
just to make sure. So I had to look at it every
day, knowing how crazy it was getting. It was just a reminder of
just how bad it was. PATRICK O’DELL: Hi, welcome
back to the show. This episode’s about
Jason Dill. And I know we already did
a Jason Dill episode. But while I was making that, I
was looking at all of his old parts and stuff. And I thought it’d be cool to
do sort of the history of Jason Dill. JASON DILL: My very, very,
very first ad was I was sitting in a shopping
cart with Caroll sitting in the front. Caroll, Ben Chibber, and
Anthony Oglesby. Me and Anthony Oglesby
are the little guys. Caroll is only like a
year and a half, two years older than me. But I remember them being like,
hey go get Caroll to go shoot this ad. Fucking– what? Like, I’m not going to
talk to this dude. Like, it’s Mike fucking
Caroll. My first video part was
an A1 Meats where– MALE SPEAKER: Is that the one
where you’re running through the– doing like cartwheels
through the grass? JASON DILL: Yeah, and doing
flips and shit. I was 12. I filmed for three days. I was just, I can
bigspin that. I can 360 flip that. Like, just, all right, do it. I don’t remember like
ever taking time. I would check out– I remember seeing Ocean and
Marcus like really try shit. I remember I got driven to 7th
Street, skate the head. And I remember this one
kid had a box in front of his house. So I did like a nose bump 360. And I’ll hit some gap there. Instead of like, yeah, I’m just
going to go fucking– I was a little kid. Like, I’m going to go
ollie this big gap. All right. You know, like Rick Howard, he
taught me how to do a bigspin to frontside boardslide a day
before I got on Blockhead. And I tried it in my contest
run for some reason like a day after. Who the fuck knows how
I made it to here. Jesus Christ. Because if you really think
about it from that perspective and then so if you could only
imagine, like fast forward to me skating with Ocean. Like, those dudes are so far
in advance compared to my prepubescent mind. I mean, I’m sure Hensley and
them were doing it before. But I didn’t have the
opportunity to go skate with Hensley in my prepubescent
years. MALE SPEAKER: So did you
skate with Jeremy Wray? JASON DILL: Yeah. That’s weird. I was talking to someone
about this recently. I don’t even remember
how I met Jeremy. I remember people doing pressure
flips, but Jeremy was doing over knee-high
kickflips. So he was a really big influence
on my whole deal. MALE SPEAKER: What was the clip
where he does a gap and you’re in the clip? JASON DILL: The Color Video. I know I’m in that video because
I tried to ollie that gap with Jeremy. No, I didn’t come anywhere
near Jeremy. I don’t think I got over it. I don’t even think I got my
board over it with my body. MALE SPEAKER: Where is that? Where’s the mark? JASON DILL: Give me five. Over here. MALE SPEAKER: How’d
he do that? Nobody can– I don’t believe it. It can’t be possible. I don’t believe what
I just saw. I don’t believe what
I just saw. MALE SPEAKER: I even saw
it with my two eyes. MALE SPEAKER: But I don’t
believe what I just saw. Look at these marks. Look at these marks. JASON DILL: I never
thought about it until later, you know? Thinking about it right now, I
never thought of myself being in Jeremy Wray’s shadow. I was in Jeremy Wray’s shadow,
but not in a bad way. Those dudes were so
fucking gnarly. It really helped me shape and
have what feeds me today. Man, I’ve had a fucking
weird, wild ride. When I was like a
fucking child, how the fuck my mother– how she let me do this,
I do not know. My mom got this job. And she went up to a business
trip in San Francisco, took me with her, skated the
streets by myself. I’m talking about sweat pants,
Converse, and a Batman t-shirt with a mullet. I was a goofy white kid from
Huntington Beach, man. I was just fucking– I was just enjoying
being there. I wasn’t even worried about
being accepted. So that was my little early
EMB niche that I somehow sorted out on my own. And then by the time I was
15, I already rode for Spitfire and shit. So it’s like, I think
I just got accepted. And at that time, which was kind
of rad, they just lumped me, Jeremy, and Jonas
together. And hey were like,
fuck, all right. You’re on the team too. MALE SPEAKER: Were you
there when Gino did the backside heelflip? JASON DILL: No. I wasn’t there when Gino did
the backside heelflip. I talked to Gino on the phone. I was just thinking about it,
when you mentioned that Spitfire video. What happened with the Spitfire
video was that I didn’t ride for anybody except
for Spitfire and Thunder. And within that time frame, I
had already started filming with this dude Dave Sloshbach
that was friends with Brian Lotti that was trying to get
Gino and I to do this offshoot company, World Industries. And then, thank god, fucking
right before Brian Lotti left skateboarding, he left our
footage on Natas’s desk. Natas had a desk to
leave footage on. Natas called Gino’s house. I remember sitting there, being
like, fucking Natas is on the phone. And he was like, do you
want to ride for 101? So we got on 101, and
immediately released Snuff. It was the footage of us skating
just World and Blind, 101 Plan B boards. MALE SPEAKER: I remember you
telling me one time that they saw your 101– whatever, your tape to get
on 101 or something. And [INAUDIBLE] or somebody was
like, oh yeah we like you. But I don’t know about
your friend Gino. Am I remembering that wrong? JASON DILL: There’s no way
because Gino was already so well respected before he even
really hit that scene that I kind of went on his coattails. I think I had such a big mouth
when it came down to what my opinion was that the people that
I did business with were like, well this fucking little
loud-mouthed kid. He’s so about it. Like, fuck it. Throw him out there. Let’s see what he does. And I think I’ve been thrown out
there so many times to see what I can do that I ended
up just having to become as big as my– I thought my britches
were, or whatever. I know how anti-climactic it
sounds, but then I was pro. I don’t really remember. And then the whole 101 thing
kind of turned into a really rad thing, though. Yeah, right after Snuff
was 20 Shot Sequence. And what happened was
I hurt my knee. I tore my ACL in half. Yeah, so that video came out
with a super small part, the 20 Shot Sequence video. But Natas let me help him
edit that 101 section. My mom had seen enough of me
around the house and was just not stoked on how bummed
out I was, I’m sure. I’m sure she really
felt for me. And the very first clip
of me coming back is that line at Flushing. It’s the first time I skated
in eight, nine months. MALE SPEAKER: What
was the line? JASON DILL: The heelflip over
the grate with the pipe, nollie backside [INAUDIBLE]
flat, switch 5-0, switch frontside 180 out. And that was the beginning
of Trilogy. Yeah, my part in that video
was fucking balls to the wall, man. I think that was everything I’d
ever achieved to bin was in that video part. Like, up until that point, I
think that’s everything I ever worked for. Finally, like– Finally, like as gnarly as
Gino’s part was in that video, I felt finally I had
my own niche. I achieved all my goals at 19. Anything after that was just
icing on the cake. By the time that came
out, Natas quit, and I got kicked off. So the day Trilogy came
out, I got kicked off. MALE SPEAKER: But
you’re in it. JASON DILL: Yeah. MALE SPEAKER: And so– OK. Why’d they do that? JASON DILL: Because I stole
boards because I was– MALE SPEAKER: Oh, I
heard about that. JASON DILL: I had no money. Gino made $1,500 a month
and I made 1,000. One day we went to roll in the
streets and they were like, you’re not getting
paid this month. With Trilogy about– Trilogy master tape, done. Parts, done. You’re not getting paid. MALE SPEAKER: How many
boards did you steal? JASON DILL: 36. Because then I can get– if I
had 36 boards I could pay my rent and get an ounce of pot. And then I’d just live off Top
Ramen and Kool-Aid like I’d been doing. That Memory Screen
blew me away. If anybody’s seen Memory
Screen, it just like– I remember [INAUDIBLE] like,
you were into it? Like a little kid, like
that whole first part? I was like, yes. Like the [MAKING SOUNDS]. I’d sing the song, that
middle section. I can’t forget to tell you
something that you’re going to think is funny. You’ll probably use
it, after this. But when I was skating for 23,
I was going to SF a lot, during that fit shit because
I rode for a company called C/O Wheels. C/O was short for cocaine. So stupid. What age is that, like 21? I was like 21 years old, going
to SF all the time, smoking cocaine blunts, being nutty. Like, turning into that weird
dude who would just take drugs when he’s with you
and not tell you. Like, that was never me,
but I turned into that. It was a really strange
period. In my 23 ad, it’s that ollie
over to frontside tailslide on that pole, where you have
to do the gap thing. Henry Sanchez had wrote, Michael
Bolton-ass looking motherfucker. And I remember being
so hurt by it. And then it just being one of
those things like, well fuck, at least one of the gnarly
dudes wrote it. Yeah. And then I remember being– towards the end of my contest
skating days– and I just– I went to a contest in Canada. And all I did was hang out
with Dyrdek and Kalis. I came home from that contest
and it said I rode for Alien Workshop in the new
Slap Magazine. So I called Chris Carter,
knowing him. And I was like, hey,
it says I ride for Workshop in the new magazine. I just want you to know
I have nothing– I didn’t– that’s not me. He’s all, I know. And I think he said something
along the lines of like, no, we OKed it. That’s cool. And they just knew. They knew I’d be riding for
Workshop because I tried to get on Workshop when I
got kicked off 101. Carter, he always calls
bullshit on it. But I remember getting
Memory Screen. It was yellow. It was a VHS, yellow tape. I liked Dinosaur Jr. I
knew who they were. Carter always calls–
no, you didn’t. Fuck. Bullshit. You didn’t know who– yeah, pfft. Just Alien Workshops
is just such a fucking sick, smart company. Like, I always adored them. And so it was a pleasure
to be at Workshop. It was really great. But the video that people always
come up to us about is the fucking Feedback video. People love that
goddamn video. And we put Ty through so much
shit making that video. Because we made that video
right before we put our Alien part out. Poor Ty was making that Feedback
video of us, like totally showing us, showcasing
us in that section. And we were like, fuck
this shit, Ty. We want to do our Alien part. Fuck a Transworld video. Fuck– Transworld video– what the fuck, Transworld. That’s bullshit. We didn’t know what it was
going to look like. And then that fucking Feedback
video came out. Everyone had just the
raddest parts in it. Kids that were born when that
part came out still come up at a demo. Feedback. They love that video. CHRIS CARTER: Dude, you got–
this is your big video. This is it. JASON DILL: OK, OK, OK, OK. All right. No problems. I’m only skating. I’m just skating. I swear. That’s it. That’s all. So far I heard I got the last
part and all that shit. So [INAUDIBLE] so psyched. CHRIS CARTER: You know
what the last part means, don’t you? JASON DILL: I do! CHRIS CARTER: That’s
the curtains. JASON DILL: A lot of people
don’t believe this, but they started recording me for about
a year straight without telling me. So what you see in
Photosynthesis is a mixture of conversations me and Carter
had over a year. And that’s not Carter
you see at the desk. It’s just a stock photo they
found of some guy at a desk. My mom thought that was Carter
for years until she met him. Photosynthesis took about
two years of work-work. I think for so long, I always
felt that this is what I’m going to do. I’d want to be individualistic,
and I’d want people to know me for me
and not part of some big team, or whatever. MALE SPEAKER: Everyone always
talks about the walking down the stairs. JASON DILL: No, I just
thought it worked. I was trying to film
a line and– what was it? Originally, it was
just a backside heelflip over that barricade. And so then I started doing this
stupid fucking 360 flip that I ate shit on so bad up
at the top of the street. And that spot got demolished
after 9/11. But what it was– like, you
cruise down this small street, and the fakie shuvit over the
bench because I’ve always loved that trick. No one does that very much. And then to pick
up the board– I just figured it would transfer
so well to walk down the stairs. One, two, three, four, down! And then I jumped that. That was a pretty fucking big
gap that was there then. I was a much younger
man at the time. It’s just part of the video. And then just the reaction I’ve
gotten out of that over the years is just insane. MALE SPEAKER: So then– then my brother Joe hit me in
the chin with a crowbar. I turned around and
talked to Joe. You know, why you [INAUDIBLE]. It’s not necessary. Don’t hit me in the chin. [INAUDIBLE] I don’t like, OK? Joe comes over, has a gun,
shoos me in the stomach, shoots another guy over
there really fast. Shoots him down. [MAKING GUN SOUNDS] Right? Everybody’s freaking
out, going crazy. I’m like, Joe, stop shooting
everybody, man. This is crazy! Those people are going to die! [LAUGHING] MALE SPEAKER: I can’t take it. [LAUGHING]

100 thoughts on “Outlaw History of Pro Skater Jason Dill – Epicly Later’d – VICE”

  1. I remember so clearly the walking down the stairs line and being like what the fuck?  That's so sick!  Every time I see anything like that nowadays it still never compares and always makes me think of the originator.  Dill.

  2. Jason Dill as a skateboarder – pretty cool.
    Jason Dill as a person – pretty fucking lame.

    Not lame in a way like, "Oh yeah he was a shitty person blah blah…"
    Lame in a scenster douche bag kinda way. For example, his part in DVS Skate More had that intro showing us how "whacky" and "zany" he was. The gingivitis wall in the beginning of this documentary…ughhh, I'm sure everyone knows people who do shit like that. They make sure to let everyone know how crazy, wild, and reckless they are. It's a pathetic cry for attention.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he masturbates every night whispering: "I'm fucking Jason Dill."

  3. DUUUUUD, I wanted that little street bike bicycle @330 SO FUCKING HARD when I was a little kid. Every time I went to toys r us, I asked for it and never got it. Fuck, that thing was awesome.

  4. I remember the O.B scene  I went down to sandigo in a van at 17, Vert skating was dead, I also had a oz… olie over the planter with Kenton russel.  Kenton russel was ollieing planters before the first blinf video came out

  5. having an art wall of blood & sputum? that's like a breeding ground for bacteria & i hate to imagine what sort of diseases- what a fucking moron. what next, he keeps his turds next to the toilet in a bowl so he can stay in touch with his digestive process? No wonder he can't skate anymore. spends all his time being artsy when i bet he can't draw or paint shit. I can draw, motherfucker. It's the result of hard work and practice, like ur skating once was. Now u can't even do that u dumbass.

  6. i adored Dill in Snuff!!!!!!..20 shot was cool,..then TRILOGY!!!!!……photosynthesis was dope, but mosaic was fucking BOSS….then the descent began….and i realised what a wanker Dill is…(p.s.yes i can skate, probably better than you)

  7. Outlaw? You mean a privileged guy spoiled as a kid, but a good skater.
    I kinda hate those andy warholian type of 'rebbelious' cunts.

  8. Wsup with all the articles about kids getting raped on his bathroom wall?! What the fuck man?!! How was that not addressed at all?!

  9. there was a time that skateboarding and weed were cool. now they are what my mo does and i just go to the library to read about marcell fucking duchampe. who cares

  10. I remember seein dill all cracked in hollywood trying to get money out the atm like 5 times in a row. Must have been broke

  11. Dill is an awesome skater, one of the best but he also said "white people are blowing it". Whatever some of the best of us are also the most flawed.

  12. I love ya Jason. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you have done for skateboarding. I am a 41 year old terrible skateboarder, but when I watch your old footage it makes me go outside & try to get better.

  13. 12 year olds nowadays can’t even do those types of tricks with a controller… not to mention on a non pixelated skateboard
    #GenerationSoft

  14. You need to spit blood on your wall to remind you that your teeth are fucked? Make a mental note or something 😂

  15. So your employer doesn't pay you so you take what you're owed in product since they can't give you cash and you get fired. Wow.

    Gee, don't fire me from a company that DOESN'T PAY ME. What assholes.

  16. Ya that's inspiration for me to fix my teeth.. serieally how stupid does this guy think the camera man is like id laughed

  17. i was a skater 90s…… but skaters are more into dudes and shoes than any supermodel….skate vids are like porn for kids trying to copy a style by watching vids over and over

  18. This dudes memory is fuckin incredible that he remembers all the sequence of tricks he did in skate videos 20 years ago

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